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I've certainly heard of Ross Jeffries - he is very well known, and very good at what he does.

A few of the hypnotists I network with know him personally, and most tell me he's a creep, lol, but that's just their opinion.

I've never really be interested in his methods personally, mainly because I think he misses the whole point of hypnosis and NLP and instead (in his public persona at least) embraces a very shallow and superficial perspective on NLP and people in general.

The funny thing is, if you're interested I would actually encourage you to study Jeffries' work. There is certainly a lot we can learn from him, provided we remember the mandatory pinch of salt and add a healthy dose of morality and common decency.

Good thread TreyHudsen, thanks for bringing this up, and I look forward to hearing many more opinions.

Cheers
Nathan Thomas

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For anyone confused, a quick google search should turn up all you need to know.

Theo, i have to disagree with some of this. Now, I am familiar with Jeffries work and must acknowledge that he has some very interesting notions. I tend to dislike his intentions, but his techniques are quite good The fact is, though, one can get results with such techniques that go beyond the limits you seem to place on this. One can argue that all women desire to be taken into the emotional space Jeffries creates, in essence that the want to be "seduced" is universal, it's just a question of whether one is capable of doing so in a way that matches her expectations and desires.

We do all have such desires, of course, and with each of us, there are processes that exist within our mind that will lead to the states connected with living out those fantasies. To offer a metaphor, suppose I am attempting to get you to eat a cookie. Now, if you are on a diet or such, you likely would naturally decline that cookie, but if I am able to engage your imagination in a way that ignites your desire to have the cookie, it would be much more likely that you would give in and eat the cookie, of course. Now, you might say that I can only do this because I am utilizing a desire that already existed, but those desires are univerally present. It is a question of connecting that desire to a specific stimulus, in this case a cookie.

In the same way, with seduction, the goal is to take naturally existing desires, for love, sex, and so on, and connect them (ie anchor) to a specific stimulus, in this case yourself as the seducer. I am not particularly fond of Jeffries approach and attitude, but his techniques do have a solid base. At the same time, those who learn from him tend to have a very narrow perspective, and so I would tend to suggest that his material be left until one has a firm base in other perspectives on hypnosis and NLP, or at the very least be looked at while also reading and studying other materials. I do not say this to dissuade from learning conversational or covert methodologies, indeed those happen to be areas that I specialize in, but because Jeffries offers an extremely narrow pwerspective on the uses and capabilities of these skills. But he is worth discussing, though I might suggest we keep from some of the more licentious specifics,

Will

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